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Mac

i was wondering if terraria will be mac supported either on its own or through an .exe emulator? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 98.28.150.91 (talk • contribs) at 08:57, May 22, 2011 (UTC).

Item Price in Table

Should the sell price for each item in the stats box under it instead of somewhere in the description? Bobb1118 23:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

source

I would like to see a more widespread use of the {{source}} template. Not as an anal "What are your references for saying that" template, but simply for bringing attention to articles that require more info. For example, I wrote some stuff in NPC, but I'm missing some information. Users should be able to see the Category:Citation needed page to see all pages currently needing attention. Happypal 06:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Other Languages and Categories

I think each language should have its own seperate category for everything - Town NPCs (default version) would only have English pages, Town NPCs (French) would have all the French-translated ones, etc. In addition to avoiding clutter in the English categories, it would help people find the translated pages faster as they wouldn't have to dig through all the English ones. Thexare 17:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

The other language pages are only temporarily here to help get them set up. Once they get their own domain, they'll be moved there. For now, we just "put up" with these inconveniences. happypal (talk • contribs) 18:15, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Category:Main and Category:Terraria Wiki

These should be merged imo. I'd suggest to use Category:Terraria Wiki? There's also Category:Terraria for game content. Juze User Juze sig icon.jpg 18:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe Category:Terraria Wiki was created by you copy/pasting templates directly from GWW (and not changing anything but the sitename) and therefore, is not really a valid part of our category structure. I will be looking more closely at the category tree next week. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 10:13, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Category:Main doesn't sound/make much sense to me, I was thinking Terraria and Terraria Wiki would suit it more well. Juze User Juze sig icon.jpg 10:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

What is wrong with the category tree? I was looking at Category:Items and it says that all of the sub-categories have 0 pages. Of course, when you go to those category pages, it will count and list all the pages. Anyone know how to fix it? It would be nice to see how the categories are shaping up. ~SgtKlaos(T/C) 12:39, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

You are reading it incorrectly, it's saying that they have 0 subcategories. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 13:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Oops (derp). Ok, can we make it expand a list of the pages (or "items") in those sub-categories? Seems it would be more useful. ~SgtKlaos(T/C) 14:22, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
No, that's not how the extension works. If you want to see the pages in the category you have to go to the category. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 14:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Monster drops

I was wondering if we could set up a "drop" system similar to that of Tibia wiki. By creating subpages for every monster with the following pattern "Monster Name"/Drops. In the subpage, registered users (for sourcing sake) could add, in a table, the amount of that monster that he killed and what it dropped. This way a more precise drop statistic could be written on the monster's page (a percentage of items drop, or the average amount of coins they drop with each kill). Mobyduck 20:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Third party software

I don't believe we should have images gained from 3rd party software (map viewers) on mainspace pages. They are fine on the Map viewers page as examples of how the program works, but should not be placed on other articles. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 08:24, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree fully. We might have to formalise this as a policy. SilverSwift ...TALK... 21:16, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Armor page formatting

Rather than the continual war over this, let's make a decision. Currently there are 3 infoboxes (one for each piece) and on Crafted armor, there are 3 crafting tables. There has been an ongoing issue with the crafting tables being placed in a table side by side, which effectively breaks the page at 1152px width and less File:Broken page.jpg inserting a large amount of white space on the page that is just bad. My proposal for a more compact layout can be seen on User:Wynthyst/armor sandbox and User:Wynthyst/armor sandbox 2 (crafted, and non-crafted). I think this might resolve both the issue of the page breaking side by side crafting tables, as well as the need for the infobox wrapper to resolve the section edit link problem inherent in MediaWiki when you have multiple floating items on a page. Comments? -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 09:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I always thought it was kinda weird how the main armor image wasn't in the infobox. I don't see any problems with it right now. --JonTheMon 13:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
(edit) To clarify, I think that the new proposal looks good and would be fine with it being implemented. --JonTheMon 15:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm for it. The only thing I'd change is to put into the "main" infobox all attributes that are equal, eg: "Tooltip", "Max Stack", "Use Time", even if it is just a coincidence. Limits bloat. happypal (talk • contribs) 06:41, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
Any other objections/ideas? It sounds pretty good and I think it should be implemented soon. --JonTheMon 12:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Looks fine for me. =) --User PoA Sig.png PoA | talk 15:10, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Implemented. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 18:23, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Do we want to do something similar for vanity sets? --JonTheMon 03:29, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I did them that way to start with (I think).I shouldn't think anymore today... I might hurt someone. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 07:29, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
I'd say so, thy are essentially the same thing. That said, I'm not sure about using this layout when there are no associated crafting recipes: Ninja Armor looks fine the way it is, imo. happypal (talk • contribs) 09:05, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Social items

We really should have thought about this before it happened and established a template of sorts for the social items :P We should try and keep the format consistent between purely social armour and real armour. I'll just let the edit storm die down before I try and clean up and verify the articles, but I don't know enough about the format to do anything meaningful regarding that. SilverSwift ...TALK... 18:05, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Like, what do you mean? We can just re-use the item infobox for the social items. --JonTheMon 18:24, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that eventually... I thought the templates were implemented differently. SilverSwift ...TALK... 20:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

All the slight variations…

moved from Talk:Terraria Wiki

while King Slime and the various goblins may warrant their own pages, simple recolors/restats like Jungle/Cave/Bat don’t imo.

i’d like to keep the front page space less cluttered (and with more room for future mobs/additions), and the articles on the individual mobs are small enough to get extended by variations.

who’s with me? ‒ Flying sheep 23:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

PS: i’d like to merge the bunny with the corrupt bunny, the goldfish with it’s corrupt version, all slimes except mother, baby, king, and pinky, and the bats.

No, don't merge, [The bunnies] are different entities,do not merge. --MadPedro 23:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
maybe technically, but they are like two facets of the same creature. i’d like to merge this with the corrupt bunny, the goldfish with it’s corrupt version, all slimes except mother, baby, king, and pinky, and the bats. ‒ Flying sheep 23:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I think merging the slime articles you mentioned might be a good idea, but I think the corrupted NPC articles should be kept separate. They're just too different from the uncorrupted versions to be merged successfully. The slimes only differ in damage, armour and sprites, these differ in those aspects and in AI, drops and creation. SilverSwift ...TALK... 23:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Same here. Merged the multicolored slimes, but leave the special slimes alone. Their stats and color are the only thing different about them. ~Null • Talk • Contribs 23:52, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
OK. I just thought that the bunny pages are (and will stay) a little bit empty.
How about the bats and generally all future biome-specific mob variants? i’d say the same as with colored slimes. merge.
oh, and all the costume pieces. why Archaeologist's Jacket and so on, if they are all part of the same purely cosmetical set? ‒ Flying sheep 23:54, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
NO MERGING. Armor pages whether costume or functional will all be dealt with the same way. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 23:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't want a merge. Makes it slightly more annoying to find articles you need. --Cloakedboltz 00:02, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Based on the code, all of the slimes except Mother and King have the same type ID, but if you want to look at it that way, so does every axe, pickaxe, hammer, shortsword, and broadsword made of mine-able materials (copper to gold). The bunnies, goldfish and bats have their own unique ID's (and for bunny and goldfish, their own drops). --KoreRekon 00:06, 11 June 2011 (UTC) (They edited while I was editing)
Quite honestly, I don't care about "Type IDs" in the program. I care about the fact these are all separate items in the game. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 00:08, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Please take this discussion to the individual pages. Thanks! -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 00:13, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree, I was trying to say merging pages based on similarities isn't a good idea. Merging copper-gold pixaxe seemed ridiculous to me. I was trying to say that just because things are similar, it doesn't mean they should be merged. Sorry if it came off the other way around. --KoreRekon 00:14, 11 June 2011 (UTC) (This was moved while I was posting, sorry)
sorry, but noone would discuss on everyone of the 6 slime pages. that’s the reason the merge template has a third parameter: to point to the disussion. ‒ Flying sheep 00:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Wyn, you are contradicting yourself. Look at e.g. Meteor Armor: 1 page. not single pages for every piece like the archaeologist’s stuff was.
If you thought i’d merge all costumes together into one article: i’m no idiot.‒ 00:16, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
How the slimes are handled has already been decided. Each will have it's own page with the main page linking to the general Slimes page. All armor (cosmetic or functional) will be treated the same, redirects for each piece, to a combined page (the design of which is being discussed in a topic above). This rush to Merge everything immediately has got to stop. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 00:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Wearing Full ninja armor set will leave trails of youself at you back like Necro set.We should merge Those costumes.And now.--MadPedro 00:25, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Where was the slime thing decided? i’d like to see the discussion, so i understand the reasoning about it.
and what about the bats?
also, you should really start reading what i said. why do you insist on misunderstanding me all the time? i don’t want to fucking merge all fucking costumes together with each fucking other, but instead i wanted to do EXACTLY what you just said, THE WHOLE FUCKING TIME. one page per costume. merge the parts of each individual costume. now clear? ‒ Flying sheep 00:32, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Um, keep a civil tone. I never once said you wanted to merge all the costume pages. I indicated that the armor (costume or functional) should all be handled the same way, so excuse me but I think I'm agreeing with you here. As for the slimes, I will have to find the discussion, but the fact that there is a single slimes link on the main page (or was prior to this update) rather than the several it started out with indicates it was done. As for the rest I believe we need to SLOW down and have some discussion before you just start tagging and mergins stuff. I believe it's YOU Flying Sheep that needs to read what is being said. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 00:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
i’d really like to keep talking nicely, but the fact that you constantly misinterpret what i said makes me rage. (in the discussion in the minecraft wiki, in the discussion now, …) no offense meant. when we agree on the armor/costume matter, why did you keep talking about it in the same breath as you tell me to “stop putting merge badges everywhere”?
the badge says “it was suggested that […] discussion”. so i thought that was the purpose: to show people that maybe this page can be merged and where to partake in the discussion about the merge. and so i added it everywhere where i thought a merge discussion is sensible. if i’m mistaken, we should rewrite the template to what it really means (whatever that may be)
and what did i miss to read here oO ? ‒Flying sheep 00:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
So, let's calm down here a bit. Yes, there may be a little miscommunication, but that's why you ask questions and stay reasonable. I think the gist of what's going on here is that we do have a semi-established standard for equipment (sets) and now we need to decide if monsters need similar treatment. Personally, given how many (in this case) slimes there are, that we should have separate pages, since having to wade through all the variants seems like it would be less useful than individual pages. --JonTheMon 01:39, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
See below

Different name, different appearance and different stats means different creatures, and therefore different pages. They looking similar or one turning into another changes nothing. There can be an additional page summarizing all of them, or a 'Notes' section explaining than one may turn into the other or something like that. If we go merging and merging, we end up with one single long document, and that's a Walkthough/FAQ/Guide, you have tons of those in sites like IGN and GameFAQs. And if they ever add, change or remove anything in one of them, it gets messy. This is a wiki, and wikis classify information and separate it. You merge when there's a lot of info or when it's too spread, but the game isn't so complex or so big that it needs that. You should not worry about making several pages. Want a page for all slimes? Make one. That doesn't mean there can't be a page for each single slime too. Some may want to see all potions in one page, other may want to see the page of each potions. There are 'sets' of equipment in the game, so there must be pages summarizing each set. That doesn't mean that there can't be a page for each separate item too. That's how Wikis work. Mith - Talk 08:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Mith. This is what I've been trying to explain since day one. Let's not limit possibilities, and redundancy on a wiki is not a bad thing. maybe hearing it from someone else will have more effect than it's had coming just from me. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 09:05, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
@JonTheMon: you didn’t read our converstion on minecraftwiki, did you? on the topic: especially because there are so many non-special slimes, i think they should be merged. pinky, king, baby and mother would still be separate, because they have special attributes that can’t be described in the box. (color, loot, damage, resistance) – i’d really like to see the original discussion.
@Wyn/Mith: the pages are about one lien each. when merging redundant/common information, that’s a few words per bat/slime. while i understand the reasoning behind corruped/non-corruped goldfish/bunny, but for the bats and slimes: really same difference. – Flying sheep 10:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Alright,now there is a giantic pyramid here,geez,stop charging topic beewet Slime's and Vanity items,make everything harder to understand and such --MadPedro 10:51, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
It's been less than 24h people. Let's wait until the pages stabilize first, only then can we really even start considering the merge. happypal (talk • contribs) 11:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The different slimes and the bats do have different properties. They deal different amounts of damage, have different amounts of health and armor, spawn in different biomes, and their average gold drops are different. Mith - Talk 15:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
so what? they got every stat increased by a fraction compared with their weaker variants, and have a different color so you can see what you’re dealing with. they aren’t significantly different from each other (like as opposed to e.g. mother slime, which doesn’t fit through 2-space-holes and spawns babys on death) – Flying sheep 15:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
People want convenience. A page talking about slimes and having all the variations in sections is much better than having more pages on the wiki. Each slime page has hardly any information, you could easily sum that up on the Slime page. If fact, all slime pages already have all their information on the Slime page.. ~Null • Talk • Contribs 16:59, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
You can have a page for all slimes. And actually, there's a page for all the slimes already. I'm not against that. But if you put several separate entities into the same page, it messes up categorization and possible autocategorization and automatic listings. One creature->one page. The Slime page is an example of what I'm saying. There's the 'Slime' page as a summary for all slimes, yet each slime has its own page too. When a user searches for 'Green Slime', they don't want a page for all the slimes or several slimes bunched together, they just want to read about the Green Slime. But if they just search for 'slime', they'll get the page for all the Slimes. I don't see why you want to delete several of the particular slime pages and join them in one just because they look similar. Messing things up, when it's fine as it is. Pages looking 'empty' for having little text is not reason enough. Mith - Talk 17:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
So the slime page has the summary of all the slimes. What do you do if you want details? like which slimes spawn in which areas? How much gold do they drop? any particular notes (like blue slimes can hide in water pretty well)? --JonTheMon
It's mostly about separate values. When it comes to values, you go 'Science' not 'Arts'. Locations they spawn, health, damage , armor... all those values change. Look at most wikis all around the world. There's one constant that all proper wikis share: The same infobox never appears more than once in the same page, that's not a trend or a whim, there's logic behind that. If you need another infobox to put more info, then you'll be adding that infobox into a separate page. Look ad Dungeon Brick. They are exactly the same item, excepting icon and name of the color. Because of the degree of their similarities, they can be put in a single Infobox under the 'Dungeon Brick' page. But two slimes can't be put in the same infobox. Although you see them together quite often, blue slimes may spawn deeper than green ones, a green slime always has 15HP, a blue slime always has 25HP, and their damage and armor are different too, they look similar, they behave in a similar way, but it's not 'flavors' of the same creature, they are separate entities with separate properties. If some automated listing was added sorting all variables in creatures, so users could sort them by their different values (From most to least health, from least to most damage, etc), putting two infoboxes in the same page, or putting two different health values in the same infobox would mess the listings. Mith - Talk 17:46, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
I would agree to that - to sum it up: dungeon brick has no values different, so it should stay merged, and slimes have different values, so they should be separate. ~Null • Talk • Contribs 18:09, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
  1. i disagree with the “infobox” argument ‒ it’s simply not true. wyn’s proposal for the armor pages has 7 infoboxes of 3 types.
  2. this means that the automatic listings which you talk of would have to be programmed in a way that needs 5 minutes more to implement than 1-infobox-per-page, anyway.
  3. redirects to anchor links are possible.
  4. in the minecraft wiki, e.g. the infobox for the stairs has a cycling image of the different stairs. but we wouldn’t need that. several infoboxes as with the armor pages would be easier and better.
how would we name the “bats” overview page? since the bat is a “different entity” by itself. ‒ Flying sheep 21:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
The bat pages should not be merged. The two types of Bat are different entities, with different spawn locations, etc. There should be a "See also" section on the two pages or some form of tag that would alert viewers to the existence of the other page. As for the mainpage, there could be a single link to Bats that would be a disambig giving both links, if it's decided to condense the links on the mainpage. As for "automated listing" while I appreciate your points Mith, the chances of this happening are slim, as we are not allowed to use DPL. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 22:55, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

There is no plain 'Bat' like there is no plain 'slime'. There is Cave Bat and Jungle Bat. The page is already set up like that and all. Mith - Talk 11:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry for touching into such a heated debate, but I'm a bit concerned that about 600 of our ~720 pages don't even have a full screen of content on them. That doesn't strike me as an especially useful format, and as the game ages I imagine it will get worse. I personally would like to see, for example, the page Cave Bat redirect to a Cave Bat section of the Bat page. But if I'm in the minority here, that's fine. --Theothersteve7 14:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
I don't see why each and every page must have text from the top to the bottom, to the point of merging pages every time that doesn't happen. A wiki is not just a collection of linked text documents. It stores information under a structure. Imagine we add a "Monsters in jungle biome" category. What will you do to categorize that properly? If the two creatures are in the same page, you'll get Cave Bat in the Jungle category, and Jungle bat in the Cave category. You could go around that by putting the categories in the original pages that redirect to 'bat', but that something extremely messy to do. If something happens (like a change in the names), tracking the changes gets too annoying. To prevent things like those, wikis use a simple One entity->One page structure. That sometimes will cause pages to be small, but 'small' is better than 'messy'. Mith - Talk 20:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Not every page needs text from top to bottom. I'm just concerned that 80-90% of our pages consist of two sentences, four numbers and a picture. Why don't we have separate pages for each of the six kinds of gems? To answer your question, I'd make a page called "Cave Bat" and make it #REDIRECT[[Bat#Cave Bat]] What if someone wanted to post strategies for fighting bats? Where would they put it? --Theothersteve7 20:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Strategies for fighting both bats are not the same, because of the areas they spawn at. Jungle bats spawn in areas that are open jungles by default (and a few caves), while cave bats spawn in underground caves, which tend to be smaller are narrower while you dig. With cave bats, you just go on with your pickaxe and they'll go there directly, while jungle bats can fly higher and move with more freedom, so guns and bows work better against them. As for 'generic strategies' that work against both, you have a Bat page, and "See also" sections to send people there. Mith - Talk 21:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Ah, at least someone shares my opinion :) We should get the cross reference thing going. maybe a bat box like this?
Bats
Jungle Bat  • Cave Bat
Flying sheep 22:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

random break for ease

Because there are only 2 of them, I don't think a box is necessary, simply add a See also section at the bottom of the page to link one to the other. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 04:05, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I think that if there's only up to 3 of something, a See also section is enough. If they ever add more so there's 3 or 4, then a navigation template can be made anytime. Mith - Talk 14:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I think this should also be done with statues. <random location> --TheCHA 07:43, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Used in template

Take the regular crafting recipe template and un-bold the result. I like the style User:Kalilla put together on Grappling Hook. Sorry for short posts, it's quite early in the day and I'm being lazy ~Null(T-C) 06:03, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

I was actually thinking the same thing about making the result a link but User:Happypal beat me to it lol -- ❤Kalilla❤ 06:47, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Internal linking changes

Would it be possible to make some changes to the way internal linking works?

For example BucketBucket produces no image when linked. So the only way to fix that is to make a direct link to the image itself Empty Bucket.png and then add the normal link afterwards Bucket. Now this works in a way, but the link for the bucket is to the actual image, not the item description.

Basically you cannot (to my knowledge) change the landing page on an internal image link, would it be possible to get such a feature?

2nd issue:

You cannot change the image dimension when you make a link such as this Breathing ReedBreathing Reed. You would then have to resort to linking directly to the image again Breathing Reed.png, and this time add a resize command. But doing this run into the same problem as mentioned above, it links directly to the image, and not the item description. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Linkitch (talkcontribs)

With the linking issue, #REDIRECT [[Bucket]] in the actual page works. As for the item link template, that's messing with a formula that works well in the item boxes and the like. It's a massive system-wide change, which I'm opposed to. --User PoA Sig.png PoA | talk 22:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually, if you use {{item link}} on "Empty Bucket", it works fine: Empty BucketEmpty Bucket. The thing is that even though there a page called Bucket, it is a merge page, and there is no such item as "Bucket". Also, notice that both the link and the image link directly to Bucket. This is what you wanted right?
For the second issue (size), I have no answer to give you, it is something that would require discussion. happypal (talk • contribs) 22:38, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Isn't Template:item link redirect for this? -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 23:41, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
It is, but the idea is that it integrates right into template:item link and template:linked icon. I'd rather we limit that template's explicit use in mainspace. happypal (talk • contribs) 06:23, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Biome

I like the idea of the template - it provides fast information, but I think the icons for the monsters should be removed. They make the template quite wide. Null(T-C) 15:18, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Icons aren't related to template, it's a user choise. And wiki-list need a <nowiki /> prefix for correct work as template value. 109.169.236.15 16:01, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Formatting standards

There are various formatting inconsistencies and clutter, as we can expect from a burgeoning wiki, and I would like to start reducing bloat by using a crisper, less distracting format for "See also" links. Right now, the (usually one) link is listed on separate lines under an entire section, like this:

See also

A template from Wikipedia could be imported to display a more low profile link like this:

See also: Explosive Consumables

I can only see pros, does anyone like the idea or have any cons? ~SgtKlaos(T/C) 16:15, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes I like the idea. For multiple links, use the previous. For one, use the italics. Null(T-C) 16:23, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Null, it sounds like a fantastic idea -- ❤Kalilla❤ 16:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I both agree and disagree. It depends on the purpose of the link. If the link is near the end of the article, go with the H2 version. If it's near the top of an article (pseudo-disambig) then go with the italicized version. --JonTheMon 19:28, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
You can feel free to create a project to outline some formatting standards, once you can get some solid proposal guidelines worked out, present them to the community. I personally don't see a huge problem on this wiki, the pages are in pretty standardized format now, but if it's something you feel is necessary to have formalized in a set of guidelines, I'm not going to say no (unless you choose to reinvent the wheel...). Just make sure the project looks at all types of pages, so we aren't having to repeat this project over and over. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 12:08, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Jon: The indented italicized is good for top of the page disambig. That said, I don't see the problem with the current: why should it be "less distracting"? The point is that once you have finished reading the article, and want more, then you have a list of related articles... I'm all ears, but I also agree with wynthyst, I don't really see either a problem, or a need... happypal (talk • contribs) 13:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Potions

We have now “Special Potions”, “Normal Potions” and “Alchemy”. Which of the following should we do?

  1. Merge the Templates (see below)
  2. Change (some of) the terms
  3. Somehow involve the official term; Alchemy

IMHO, Special Potions is a stupid term. In which way are they special? None. (There are more of these than of the others) But they are Buffs. Why not name them accordingly? What do you think?

Flying sheep 11:59, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Here a combined “Potion” navbox template, to see what it looks like. Headers are not final

Potions
 
Refilling Lesser Healing Potion • Healing Potion • Lesser Mana Potion • Mana Potion • Lesser Restoration Potion • Restoration Potion
Temporary Effects
/ Buffs
Archery Potion • Battle Potion • Featherfall Potion • Gills Potion • Gravitation Potion • Hunter Potion
Invisibility Potion • Ironskin Potion • Magic Power Potion • Mana Regeneration Potion • Night Owl Potion • Obsidian Skin Potion
Regeneration Potion • Shine Potion • Spelunker Potion • Swiftness Potion • Thorns Potion • Water Walking Potion
I like it. I think it works pretty well. You just have to change it so it's width is 80% though, like the rest of our navboxes. happypal (talk • contribs) 12:33, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
like so? – Flying sheep 12:59, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I think there needs to be discussion about if "restoring" potions and "buff" potions belong together, first. They have the same name, yes, but from a gameplay point of view, they are completely different entities, with different mechanics. I'm not necessarily biased in any direction, but I'd like to see some discussion before we rush into merges and boxes... happypal (talk • contribs) 20:41, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Potion infobox

I can't make one. Could someone else do it for the wiki? Looks like a regular infobox except parameters: tooltip, duration, and special potion (T/F) Null(T-C) 22:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

what do you mean: “special potion”?
  1. see above for better names (buff potion OR temporary effect potion)
  2. what do you mean with that parameter? what do you want it to represent?
  3. learn templates, it’really not that hard. (but boy, it’s the worst template language ever. why isn’t there a better one for mediawiki?)
Flying sheep 20:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

corruption updates page v.1

discuss all the changes in Terraria like the music, etc., all discussions on changes in the corruptions and your thoughts on it can go onto this forum post (DLAJT24) NEW - shortly after 1.0.5 came out = new corruption theme in Terraria 1.0.5 it sounds techno and more cheerful, yet still gives off an evil presence, it has a certain techno base and descent into the ground theme, it is so nice to see corruption and other themes will now not share the same music.NEW! Auto Puase= im able to now listen while i play on other stuff due to the new autopuase, accidentally speeding up he game, auto-using items when i re-open the window, etc. are now less of a problem, now i can listen to the corruption theme without a speed spawn. cash penalty in chasms = i dont like losing my hard-earned cash in the corruptions, this has remained my problem of losing alot of damn gold coins until i found a golden chest with a lucky horseshoe almost burried in ebonstone.

this is all i have to say so what do you have to say about the new corruption of 1.0.5? (DLAJT24 21:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC))

Something which needs to addressed

I'd just like to point you here: talk:Goblin Army#Hmm.... ILiaWneK 11:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

IRC channel

Does the wiki have one? If not, I would like to suggest one as it'll be easier than using talk pages for the more "heated" discussions. iLiaWneKTC 14:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

No we don't have one, and any wiki related discussions need to happen on the wiki, IRC is for socializing, not serious discussion. -- Wynthyst Curseicon.png talk 01:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Decay time / item amout of loot?

Hi, i am just wondering how long loot stays as long as i see it and if there's drop limit? --Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.49.41.163 (talkcontribs)

As far as I'm aware, loot stays forever and only disappears when you leave the world. As for the drop limit, there is one, but it remains to be discovered. iLiaWneKTC 18:51, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
It's 200 items. --Lunboks 19:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

How the hell do you fix this?

Sawmill#Recipes. [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]]  14:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Done Gamecreator 14:09, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I've always been one for missing simple errors :/. [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]]  16:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed moves

See Terraria_Wiki_talk:Projects/Guides. [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]] 20:14, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Version history - collapsible tables

The page is getting very long at the moment, so I thought that making each table collpasible would be a good design decision. Thoughts? [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]] 18:34, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm inclined to say no. If they want a specific version, there's the TOC. And if we really want to bring the size down, we could archive/separate the page. --JonTheMon 19:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Armor pages

To follow consistency, the armor pages (Copper Armor, Molten Armor) should be moved having "Armor" un-capitalized - there is no official name for the set afaik. Does anyone oppose? --NullTalk 16:50, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Well spotted, I always assumed they were referred to with a capital somewhere in-game. If we really want to be strict about capital letters, I'd say go ahead. [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]] 17:25, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I'll go ahead and move since it's not that big of a deal. --NullTalk 18:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Well, it sort of broke a bunch of redirects. --Lunboks 18:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Phew, finally finished every main namespace link (couple hundred edits). Definitely took longer than I thought it would. At least that means there's plenty of linkage in this wiki. --NullTalk 21:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Item drops infobox template update

User:ILiaWneK/Sandbox/item drops infobox used in User:ILiaWneK/Sandbox. How is it? [[iLiaWneK|talk|contributions]] 21:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks fine and it's a simplification when using the template, but I thought there were some cases where just a name wouldn't work. If there aren't any, we could decide how to go about pushing it forward. --JonTheMon 15:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Dedicated Server Page

I think there should be a page explaining the dedicated server functions and how to use it.

Created Dedicated_Server page and added basic information.

NPC Icon

Can I upload a resized version of the updated icon I uploaded previously? I can scale it to whatever size is necessary. That blurry and outdated icon looks awful.

I agree. Let him, or use http://wiki.terrariaonline.com/File:Guidenpc.png . - AgentShawn
Yeah, and I can't figure out how to get that extremely ugly interpolation switched to nearest neighbor. Looks so much better with pixel art. I'll fix that now and put it on the editcopy. --NullTalk 03:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

"Did you Know" Section

Do you think a possible Did-You-Know section can get on the front page? We can allow it to obtain user-submitted facts and allow 10 or so at a time through a period of time. Not to mention, a featured article page might be interesting too.

Terraria Weapon Overview

Hey all, basically I started a new series on youtube where I take a look at weapons in terraria, give info on their stats etc and give you a verdict on it. The first episode Sunfury is currently on the Sunfury page as somebody suggested I should put these on the wiki. However after putting it on their I thought I should check first, just want to make sure people are fine with these going up. An example of the Sunfury episode is shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZYzp2y-9Zo&feature=channel_video_title

Quick Edit - Broken Link

There's a broken link at the bottom of the page that links to

All the slight variations…

moved to Terraria Wiki Talk:Community portal#All_the_slight_variations.E2.80.A6

Monsters section

Moved to Talk:Terraria Wiki/editcopy#Monsters section

Character design tips

Hey guys, I make a lot of characters to play Terraria but I can never seem to pick color choices that look good and realistic. I've looked around for an article giving character design tips but I couldn't find any. Perhaps that would be a wise page to make? 174.66.18.53 21:13, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Weapon Prefixes

So, it looks like there are now types of weapons (Godly, Strong, etc). How should we document those and how should those affect their main pages? --JonTheMon 20:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Since there seems to be a shared pool of prefixes, I'd suggest just a new page listing the prefixes and their effects. Thexare 21:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Thexare. Putting the full list of prefixes on each item's page is a bad idea, though I wouldn't worry about cleaning them off until the wiki has settled down a bit. Once we've confirmed any anomalies outside of the base rules (such as with Water Bolt), those can go on the individual pages. --Theothersteve7 17:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
I can help out with the numbers if the page goes up, have tons of platinum and will test out a few weapons and see if the numbers/conditions remain the same throughout with the same conditions. I believe they do, just need to confirm. --TheCHA 07:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Well, I suggest that we split the perfixes into 3 groups: Melee items' perfixes, Range item's perfixes,and Accessory perfixes. Each group will be split into ones that has only good attributes, ones that have mixed, and ones that have only bad stats.

Then, we can go on and even sub-group the "only good" and "only bad" to groups of 1,2,3,4 or 5 bonuses (For example, the Godly perfix usually have 5 different bonuses to the item). And list as much range as we can to the bonuses. I must mention to the person above me that the bonuses do have a slight range of numbers (For example, my friend and I both got the Godly perfix on our Megashark and the bonues stats aren't that same). I could help any way you'd want me to :) --Tal 18:37, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

It looks like Reforge already has them organized. Now it's just how to link them to each individual page. One possibility is to link it somehow through Template:Item infobox, maybe as a "modifications = yes" type of display. --JonTheMon 19:10, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh silly me, didn't think to look at the Reforge page. Now what do you mean with linking them to individual pages? What do we need to link and where? Why would we want them linked in through the Item infobox? I mean, each weapon still crafted to its normal state (Although there's a chance it'll be auto-upgraded with a mod), and people can just go to the Reforge page for the complete list of mods. --Tal 19:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Terraria 1.1 Wyvern?

Has anyone thought about where to put a link to the Wyvern enemy? I thought it appropriate to place them under Mini-bosses, but I'm still unsure of whether or not they fall into that category. -- Beschutzer 01:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Wyvern should go under Common Enemies. This is not a mini-boss, since you can't summon it, and there is no music change nor a message in the chat when it appears. I doubt it should even go under the Rare Enemies category, since they are pretty common. 174.93.195.170 11:59, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Need to consolidate modifiers

Now that we know more about modifiers and have a modifiers page with subheadings for each item type, we should create a modifiers template to automatically list the modifiers available for each item without having to manually type them in to each item page or replace modifier info on individual items with just a link. Plasmafox 11:36, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

This is a wiki. That much information shouldn't just be included on every weapon page. At the most, i'd say that the item infobox could potentially provide a link to the modification page. --JonTheMon 13:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Right. The infobox link is a better implementation. Plasmafox 05:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Video / YouTube Linking

I have to say, as a frequent user of this wiki, the popping up of various youtube videos regarding various things is very annoying and often misplaced with very little useful information contained within them, and therefore in my opinion unrequired. These people seem to be doing nothing but advertise their own videos, and always mention 'subscribing' or 'rating'. Which of course, is obviously for their own gain. Any chance we can have a purge of these videos from this otherwise very informative and useful wiki? --87.106.252.91 02:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

We actually have a policy regarding that: Terraria Wiki:Video policy --JonTheMon 13:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Ah? So you do. There is many currently about, mainly on the updated 1.1 pages with the new stuff. YouTube account named 'TerrariaHelp', seems to break every possible rule on that policy. Hopefully he (or a moderator?) will remove them and stop clutting up the pages. (First poster on this matter, just a different IP now) --90.203.49.5 16:25, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Feel free to remove the videos (or register an account and remove videos). If an edit war occurs, then bring it up to a moderator. --JonTheMon 16:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
PS, I've removed some of the videos already, mainly from item/weapon pages. --JonTheMon 16:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Template:NPCs (And others)

I have a little suggestion of putting a little thumb'ed picture of the NPCs, for example, to the Template:Town NPCs. Basicly it would make the template looks a little better to the eye than it currently is, and will give people without much knowledge of "What was the NPC name of that ginger girl?" a chance to figure what they are looking for by looks. --Tal 19:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Fail in "Hardmode Enemies"

Bald Zombie isn't a Hardmode Enemie. It's not even a different Enemie, its just a Zombie with a different Texture. --95.222.220.186 13:54, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Wiki constantly refreshing over time

Does anyone know why this wiki refreshes itself every minute or so, adding another entry to my browser's history (in Firefox or Chrome)? This basically prevents using the back button since you would have to click back like 15 times (if you kept the page open for a while). This is a very weird bug! 24.185.138.174 01:17, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, that's strange. I use IE/Chrome, and while I'm not seeing multiple history entries, since this week all of my Chrome browser tabs which are on the Wiki do seem to be loading constantly, whereas previously they'd load and then done. So yeah, there's something going on. Do you have any extensions on or something? I'm just using the vanilla configuration of my browsers, no extensions. - Spinfx 01:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Its because of the scripted advertisements - every minute or so, a fresh ad loads

King Slime

Let's rename the section he's currently in to "Events", then move him to "Bosses". He's a real boss - now more than ever. -- TechpriestMagos 00:25, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I second this. --Moxxy 06:31, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Done. Also removed mini-bosses from the title. iLiaWneK (block) 10:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Trivia

I'm as interested in meaningless information as the next guy, but I really dislike trivia -- unless something has been explicitly mentioned by the devs somewhere like on their blog or forums or something, it feels like people are just making random shit up. Latest case in point, the Corrupt Bunny. Pokemon reference, really?? If we're just gonna pull crap out of our asses I could make trivia entries all day too. Shouldn't there be a standard for these things? - Spinfx 02:34, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to remove it if it seems overly obvious or implausible. If someone keeps adding it, take it to the talk page. --JonTheMon 03:01, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Sorry if it came across as sounding snippy, but unsubstantiated rumors on wikis really cheese me off. I wouldn't have minded if it were on a talk page - in fact I'd prefer speculation to be confined to talk pages. - Spinfx 04:54, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Conversion between traditional and simplified Chinese text

Hello everyone, I am an editor on the Chinese translation project. The project page currently offers only articles in traditional Chinese text, and I do want to see some good articles in simplified Chinese text. However, it would be indeed tiring, and difficult to write and maintain separate articles for traditional and simplified Chinese.

Is there any kind of text conversion page to help with auto-conversion between traditional and simplified Chinese text? I do know that there is one on Wikipedia, but I'm not sure if it is applicable here. If anyone could help with this, it would be greatly appreciated. Dragomir7 05:11, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Just viewed the Chinese Minecraft wiki site, and it seems that they have a separate portal to put all the Chinese articles together to ease between character conversion. I checked this Wiki, and found similar portals for completed French and Polish versions, but no Chinese version. Because of the complexity of the Chinese character conversion, may I request a creation of a Chinese Terraria Wiki at ''wiki-zh.terrariaonline.com''? The presence of the auto-conversion would make it easier for editors to work on articles, rather than having to create separate (simplified and traditional) articles and edit twice the workload. Dragomir7 11:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Increased number of blockings

From what I can see on the Recent Changes page, it seems there's been a lot more blocking of new users due to vandalism (mostly the mass deletion notices). Is this normal? I don't usually see so many. Wild guess, we're seeing an increase of people coming for the Chinese translation of the wiki due to the recent current increase of activity in that area (and thus an increase of vandals). - Spinfx 08:25, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Nah, it's mostly the vandal bots picking up in activity. --JonTheMon 13:31, 27 December 2011 (UTC)